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Real Men of Genius [Nov. 27th, 2007|12:06 am]
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Today we salute you, Mr. Electrician Who Installed a New Panel for stalkingmsd.

That's right. No one can screw up the wiring of a house quite like you. When it comes to 240V baseboard heat, you know the correct way to wire it. Send the same hot phase to the heater. Twice. And if thats not enough, you can screw it up 3 times, in the same way.

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That just took about 90 minutes to debug -- the "no voltage" problem was confusing enough, but the fact that it was all three heaters led me to discover that it was, in fact, 240V from an outlet's hot side to both heater leads (and 120 from the neutral side). And the only thing that made me notice that was when I went to use a toner on the line and instead of the toner signal I got a nice 60 Hz buzzzzzzzzzz.

Now I debate if I just rearrange the wires in my panel myself so that the heaters all get the 240V they so richly deserve, or if I call in another "professional" to ensure that I don't screw up moving 4 wires around. (Anyone know if these heaters need to be on two-pole single-throw breakers, or are two independent breakers acceptable?)
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[User Picture]From: deathb
2007-11-27 04:03 pm (UTC)
If you use two independent breakers, you probably want to add a breaker handle tie between the two breakers. This isn't a Home Depot item, but any decent electrical supply is going to have them for most standard modern breakers for like $.99.
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[User Picture]From: stalkingmsd
2007-11-27 04:13 pm (UTC)
Yeah, further research found this breaker, which is pretty much what I would need (space in the box is cramped). But the answer is, "yes, two poles required," I'm pretty sure.

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[User Picture]From: sarahnade
2007-11-27 05:37 pm (UTC)
I live with 2 electrical engineers. One of them blew a fuse last week and none of us know where the fuse box is so the plug in my bathroom no longer works and I just have to live with it. (We've looked for the box, but there's so much crap all over our house it's probably being blocked by something.)

The other one enjoys tinkering with electronics in his room. He electrocuted himself last night, and it wasn't the first time.

These people went to college, too. Good ones.
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[User Picture]From: stalkingmsd
2007-11-27 06:04 pm (UTC)
Once it went from "move 4 wires with power off" to "replace breakers" I'm not interested in trying this myself any more. :)

Electrician already called.
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[User Picture]From: sarahnade
2007-11-27 06:47 pm (UTC)
Good call. Hopefully it's a different one than the guy who fubar'ed it the first time?
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[User Picture]From: ka3ytl
2007-11-27 10:52 pm (UTC)
He electrocuted himself last night, and it wasn't the first time.

Generally that's something that you can only really manage to do once.

Perhaps he's shocked himself severely a few times.
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